While accusing me of being an ignorant, establishment geopolitical analyst repeating globalist talking points on history, Skousen exposed his own ignorance on a wide-range of critical topics
Excellent analysis. Even though many of us have often found Skousen's views very accurate on a number of subjects, he's completely out in left field in his views of Russia, Ukraine, and the 2014 coup. Today, Skousen often sounds like Robert Kagan or Victoria Nuland.
Yes he totally does. He agrees with Biden that we should increase military aid to Ukraine to weaken Russia supposedly at zero risk of being nuked in response not knowing we are maximizing the risk that Russia will nuke the US in the process.
Yes it's dangerous because by assuming a nuclear World War III with Russia and China is inevitable he opposes doing anything to percent such an unnecessary and easily avoidable outcome. We need to learn to co-exist peacefully with all our nuclear adversaries as we did during the Cold War.
Can you ask him, perhaps during your debate Friday on KBJA, about Tom Rodgers' allegation Catherine the Great appointed one of Joel's forebears the Grand Rebbe of the Ukraine?
"(SaHiB), David Byne is joining us on Friday morning for a rebuttal and new info. He and I have been communicating on this issue for over two weeks. Thanks.
PJ"
Are you substituting for Joel this Friday? Or does he mean you'll be on the first hour, and Joel the second?
He thinks it's a risk free policy for the US to fight Russia in Ukraine failing to comprehend that they could destroy us with cyber, EMP or nuclear attack at any moment in response.
Thank you David, for your piece on Joel Skousen, and link to his address. I always find such links and analyses invaluable, as all of us are in danger of creating our own echo chambers. (with your own work I'm in a comfortable place, simply because I don't agree with all of your arguments! ;) )
So I listened to as much of his address as I could before moving to your analysis. I didn't get very far, as his methodology (especially his apparently total, yet IMO unnecessary, reliance to that point on the deep state) for me fatally wounded his arguments. Any theory that explains everything, explains nothing. :)
Therefore I'd go further than yourself and suggest that Mr Skousen has gotten not only some of his facts wrong, but also at least some of his methodology.
OT, I'm interested in your alt-history of WW2, if it's still plausible (given that there can't be much previously secret material that hasn't by now been released).
Looks like an excellent book! Are you interested in volunteering to serve as a leader in the EMP Task Force? If so email me your contact information and bio and I will pass it on to our Executive Director.
I find much to support on both sides. However, your (and others) argument about not supporting Ukraine due to increased risk of nuclear war to be disingenuous.
Putin is a delusional pig. With that as a starting point how is Ukraine’s fighting using western moneys BUT NOT OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND worse than letting him start FROM UKRAINE into NATO member states. Because that is where his delusional reading would lead. That is far more likely in my mind if the current situation if the west fails to do what is necessary. Christ almighty, slow walking support has things stalled. NEVER THE LESS IT IS THE BEST DOLLAR VALUE INVESTMENT IN SECURITY WE HAVE EVER MADE. Is Ukraine perfect, hell no. But the changes from 2014 to today are marked. Get them into the EU as a starting point now.
The only way that Russia invades NATO is if Biden keeps fighting Russia in Ukraine. Disarming the US military to aid Ukraine is a great policy if you want Russia to nuke the US and NATO. Everyone talks about the need to liberate 18% of Ukraines territory controlled by Russia's brutal murderous dictator but no one talks about the need to liberate the 82% of Ukraine controlled by Ukraines brutal murderous dictator.
We do not disarm the US. Obviously we must revitalize a range of munitions manufacturing capabilities. (Note to the H of R and Johnson a bill to fund Ukraine, Taiwan and the southern border is NOT a bad idea. Why are sending those idiots home prior to accomplishing anything). But I do not characterize Ukraine’s leader as a “brutal murderous dictator”. India to this day despises the memory Churchill, but he remains THE wartime leader of the 20 century.
The fact is Biden has been shipping massive quantities of US weapon systems from the US military to Ukraine leaving the US dangerously short of key weapon systems and unable to fight a war with Russia or China at the same time he is inciting them to destroy us with his idiotic Ukraine and Taiwan policies. Its a stupid and suicidal policy and he should be impeached and removed from office for so doing. Churchill was, like Hitler and Stalin, a mass murdering tyrant so you raise a good point there.
Biden and trump and America as a whole are delusional pigs and pieces of shits. I sounded very stupid and ignorant didn't I? That's how you sound, ignorant and very stupid comment. You hate Putin because He saved his country? Because he is not aligned to woke globalist? It is not the same Trump and America first conservatives want?
I never said I hated Putin. I said he is a dictator that the US should transform from an adversary to a strategic partner by negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine and signing a mutual security agreement with the Russian Federation.
Excellent analysis. Even though many of us have often found Skousen's views very accurate on a number of subjects, he's completely out in left field in his views of Russia, Ukraine, and the 2014 coup. Today, Skousen often sounds like Robert Kagan or Victoria Nuland.
Yes he totally does. He agrees with Biden that we should increase military aid to Ukraine to weaken Russia supposedly at zero risk of being nuked in response not knowing we are maximizing the risk that Russia will nuke the US in the process.
Yes, it's quite disheartening to see such an otherwise well-informed person adopt such catastrophically dangerous views.
Yes it's dangerous because by assuming a nuclear World War III with Russia and China is inevitable he opposes doing anything to percent such an unnecessary and easily avoidable outcome. We need to learn to co-exist peacefully with all our nuclear adversaries as we did during the Cold War.
Can you ask him, perhaps during your debate Friday on KBJA, about Tom Rodgers' allegation Catherine the Great appointed one of Joel's forebears the Grand Rebbe of the Ukraine?
I don't have a debate scheduled with Joel on Friday but I would love to have some soon.
Odd; Paul Jensen writes:
"(SaHiB), David Byne is joining us on Friday morning for a rebuttal and new info. He and I have been communicating on this issue for over two weeks. Thanks.
PJ"
Are you substituting for Joel this Friday? Or does he mean you'll be on the first hour, and Joel the second?
7-9 am Mountain on https://station.voscast.com/4cfb514982550/ if anyone want to listen.
Yes I will be on the show from 7-8am on Friday. Not sure when Joel is normally on.
Second hour Fridays; 8:05-9. Staggered "debate", eh?
Very good rebuttal. Any idea how many Joel was presenting to?
Thanks! I think he may have had more than 100 people in the audience as I did for my presentation.
I was left confused and perplexed, that Skousen would support continuing to prop-up funding for the Ukraine/ Russia war.
Truly not sure on what his end game is with this type of reasoning.
I don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water but am left wondering about his judgement in general.
He thinks it's a risk free policy for the US to fight Russia in Ukraine failing to comprehend that they could destroy us with cyber, EMP or nuclear attack at any moment in response.
Thank you David, for your piece on Joel Skousen, and link to his address. I always find such links and analyses invaluable, as all of us are in danger of creating our own echo chambers. (with your own work I'm in a comfortable place, simply because I don't agree with all of your arguments! ;) )
So I listened to as much of his address as I could before moving to your analysis. I didn't get very far, as his methodology (especially his apparently total, yet IMO unnecessary, reliance to that point on the deep state) for me fatally wounded his arguments. Any theory that explains everything, explains nothing. :)
Therefore I'd go further than yourself and suggest that Mr Skousen has gotten not only some of his facts wrong, but also at least some of his methodology.
OT, I'm interested in your alt-history of WW2, if it's still plausible (given that there can't be much previously secret material that hasn't by now been released).
You might be interested in my new book, Nuclear High-Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse: A Mortal Threat to the U.S. Power Grid and U.S. Nuclear Power Plants. https://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-High-Altitude-Electromagnetic-Pulse-Mortal/dp/8793987358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=30U6BE5YWBUHX&keywords=steven+starr&qid=1702706846&sprefix=steven+starr%2Caps%2C360&sr=8-1
Looks like an excellent book! Are you interested in volunteering to serve as a leader in the EMP Task Force? If so email me your contact information and bio and I will pass it on to our Executive Director.
Will do.
emptaskforce.ut@gmail.com is this the correct address? thanks
Yes it is. Can you please email me again. I thought I saw your email but now I can't find it.
Just resent the email. I used my university address, which is starrst@missouri.edu Sometimes, for reasons unknown, it winds up in the spam file.
Haha! He didn't tell me that. So that means Joel Skousen gets the last word on my rebuttal to his misleading claims lol!
I find much to support on both sides. However, your (and others) argument about not supporting Ukraine due to increased risk of nuclear war to be disingenuous.
Putin is a delusional pig. With that as a starting point how is Ukraine’s fighting using western moneys BUT NOT OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND worse than letting him start FROM UKRAINE into NATO member states. Because that is where his delusional reading would lead. That is far more likely in my mind if the current situation if the west fails to do what is necessary. Christ almighty, slow walking support has things stalled. NEVER THE LESS IT IS THE BEST DOLLAR VALUE INVESTMENT IN SECURITY WE HAVE EVER MADE. Is Ukraine perfect, hell no. But the changes from 2014 to today are marked. Get them into the EU as a starting point now.
Respectfully to all parties
Lyle Dokken
The only way that Russia invades NATO is if Biden keeps fighting Russia in Ukraine. Disarming the US military to aid Ukraine is a great policy if you want Russia to nuke the US and NATO. Everyone talks about the need to liberate 18% of Ukraines territory controlled by Russia's brutal murderous dictator but no one talks about the need to liberate the 82% of Ukraine controlled by Ukraines brutal murderous dictator.
We do not disarm the US. Obviously we must revitalize a range of munitions manufacturing capabilities. (Note to the H of R and Johnson a bill to fund Ukraine, Taiwan and the southern border is NOT a bad idea. Why are sending those idiots home prior to accomplishing anything). But I do not characterize Ukraine’s leader as a “brutal murderous dictator”. India to this day despises the memory Churchill, but he remains THE wartime leader of the 20 century.
The fact is Biden has been shipping massive quantities of US weapon systems from the US military to Ukraine leaving the US dangerously short of key weapon systems and unable to fight a war with Russia or China at the same time he is inciting them to destroy us with his idiotic Ukraine and Taiwan policies. Its a stupid and suicidal policy and he should be impeached and removed from office for so doing. Churchill was, like Hitler and Stalin, a mass murdering tyrant so you raise a good point there.
Biden and trump and America as a whole are delusional pigs and pieces of shits. I sounded very stupid and ignorant didn't I? That's how you sound, ignorant and very stupid comment. You hate Putin because He saved his country? Because he is not aligned to woke globalist? It is not the same Trump and America first conservatives want?
I never said I hated Putin. I said he is a dictator that the US should transform from an adversary to a strategic partner by negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine and signing a mutual security agreement with the Russian Federation.
I meant to reply Sawyer 23. I apologize for the confusion Mr. Pyne
If Skousen is up to the challenge, I'd love to see a one-on-one debate on the merits between you two David!
Front row seat please.
Yeah it would be great but I don't think he would accept the invitation.