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Jennie's avatar

That was very informative and well written. Glad I found you.

I get a bit tired of the channels (stacks?) that are excessively one-sided and where emotions take over from cogent argument.

I'm not an American ( a Brit actually) and have tried really hard to see things from both the Russian and Ukrainian sides. After all there are ordinary people involved in these tragic disputes whose lives are completely over-turned and devastated. Leaders often forget that in their "holy" endeavours to promote themselves and their interests.

I'm not sure what Trump's motivations are but his intentions for peace rather than war get my full support. I also very much applaud the speeches I heard from Hesgeth and Vance. I am really, really pleased the other war-mongering lot didn't win. For a change I can support the US. I mostly haven't for rather a long time.

Europe needs to stop being appalled all the time and try to get things peacefully sorted. And I include my own wretched government in that as well.

I hope Trump can somehow find a way to end both the tragic wars we are all focused on and a few more too that I know less about that don't feature in our media too much.

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David T. Pyne's avatar

Thank you. I'm glad you can support Trumps very sincere efforts to restore friendly relations with Russia, end the war in Ukraine and restore peace to Europe. Are there any peace parties or MPs in the UK that support an immediate end to Biden's proxy war with Russia in Ukraine ss Trump does?

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Jennie's avatar

As far as I can tell we seem to have no parties that support Trump's peace plan. I thought Nigel Farage who leads the Reform party might as he appears to get on with Trump. I haven't seen any reports of his views though. He may stay quiet on this as the support for "Ukraine must win" and the level of anti-Russia feelings in this country run very high.

The media obediently trots out such lines of thinking so it's not difficult to understand why so many of my fellow citizens see things that way. It's not everyone though.

Once the politicians stop being appalled and clutching pearls, then some will, perhaps, appreciate what's being done.

There's one individual who is an independent MP who I think would support peace in Ukraine. He is Jeremy Corbyn who did lead the Labour Party once but was removed for his views on the Palestinians. He will keep quiet, but even if he said anything it probably won't get reported much and would make no difference to anything. He's a thoroughly principled peace-nik. I'm a bit like that but not so black and white. Unlike me he wouldn't be able to say a decent thing about Trump or Putin. I don't agree with everything those two have done, but credit where credit is due in my book. Peace in Ukraine would be a real achievement. I sincerely hope both succeed in this endeavour

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Metalheaddoc's avatar

I like that Trump gets things done pronto. Politicians expect things to get done at the speed of bureaucracy. Trump does things in real time. No forming a working group to make a report in 90 days followed by a multi-agency series of multiple meetings to hammer out a framework for something or other followed by endless dialoging with stakeholders and NGOs until a final product is excreted full of meaningless diplo-speak twaddle followed by champagne toasts to each other about how wonderful their work was. Trump says "get Putin on the phone". "Schedule a meeting in a month.". The State department bureaucracy couldn't successfully pick it's nose within a hundred days.

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David T. Pyne's avatar

Yes its very impressive and a total sea change from the idiocy and refusal of the Biden administration to engage in diplomacy to save Ukraine and end the war three years ago when they were handed victory on a silver platter with the Istanbul Agreement committing Russia to withdraw all its troops from Ukraine's pre-war territory.

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