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Metalheaddoc's avatar

Regarding point 7 of the peace proposal, I see the link to far-right parties links to a specific listing of parties. Who judges what counts as far-right and/or ultra-nationalist? We have seen that European media and politicians label AfD and several conservative parties in eastern Europe as "far right". I bet they (the European power elites and media) would label any right of center party as "far right" to stigmatize them. Who is to determine if a new Ukrainian right wing party counts as "far right"? My concern that this provision would be used to label and thus make illegal ordinary populist conservativism like powerful interests have already tried to do elsewhere in Europe.

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Russia is not actually wanting to conquer or govern more territory of Ukraine. Acquiring territory was never a stated objective of Russia. A primary objective has always been to ensure that their neighbor Ukraine is not heavily armed with US or Nato weapons pointed toward Russia. This is why Russia invaded, because Ukraine was being heavily armed with offensive weapons and with an expanding military funded and trained by Nato. Putin viewed this as a blatant provocation of war. So Russia's major demand is Ukraine's neutrality. After Ukraine is de-weaponized, other countries could nontheless help Ukraine defend itself if attacked in the future. Russia cannot stop Ukraine being defended, but they will demand that Ukraine not have long range missiles and other offensive weapons.

The other main objective of Russia is for new elections and a regime change in Ukraine, so that the Russian related people in Ukraine are not subject to a Ukrainian ethnic-nationalist government intent on suppressing people's freedom to have Russian speaking schools and media in Ukraine. Russia wants a Ukrainian government that is not dominated by the Russian-hating ethnic nationalists, aka the neonazis.

So now, Ukraine and Nato will have to accept these terms in order to stop the conflict, or else the Russian military will continue its advanced and capture more territory... that's the reality of the war... Ukraine cannot win nor capture back any territory, according military experts. We already gave them 200 plus Billion and plenty of tanks and weapons, but they still lost, so giving more at this point won't help. It's Over. Just make the peace deal now, rather than wait until Ukraine loses even more.

If Putin and Trump can agree on a comprehensive Peace Proposal, Then Trump can say to Ukraine, Either agree to this or else the US will completely stop all assistance and remove all US personnel from Ukraine. This would surely end the war, no matter what help is offered by the European Coalition.

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